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Record pil-01, printed 30 August 2026. Every animal on this sheet has its own page and its own source at that address.

Pillowtalk-Foreigner

prefix Pillowtalk · Maine Coon · line: Pillowtalk-Foreigner · the source records no eye colour · Published line, tested against the known variants and carrying none

How this cat is connected to the trait

NO RECORDED PARENT LINK JOINS THIS CAT TO A FOUNDER OR TO A TESTED ANIMAL. What the record rests on instead is the line recorded on it, Pillowtalk-Foreigner, which is a source's attribution and not a descent this register can walk; and no recorded parent at all, which is a gap in the sources and not a statement that the cat had none.

No parent is recorded for this cat in the register, so no genealogy can be drawn. That is a gap in the sources, not a statement that the cat had none. Any offspring the register holds are listed below.

What is flagged

  1. PILLOWTALK-FOREIGNER. Genotype. A CAT OF THIS LINE WAS TESTED AGAINST THE THREE VARIANTS KNOWN AT THE TIME AND CARRIED NONE OF THEM. It showed the dominant blue eye and was negative for DBE-ALT, DBE-RE and DBE-CEL, and was classed on that basis as a new variant of unknown origin. THE ANIMAL IS NOT NAMED TO THIS SURVEY and no laboratory report has been supplied, so the result cannot be entered against any record and the grade `wild-type` cannot be used, because a grade attaches to an animal. THE RESULT IS RECORDED HERE AGAINST THE LINE INSTEAD
  2. PILLOWTALK-FOREIGNER. Panel. THREE OF THE SIX KNOWN VARIANTS WERE ON THAT PANEL, BECAUSE ONLY THREE WERE DESCRIBED WHEN THE TEST WAS RUN. DBE-AGO, DBE-cDc and DBE-xHW were named later. So the strict reading of the result is NOT DBE-ALT, DBE-RE OR DBE-CEL rather than a seventh variant, and DBE-AGO in particular is a later-described Maine Coon variant that the panel could not have covered. RETESTING ONE CAT OF THIS LINE AGAINST A CURRENT SIX-VARIANT PANEL WOULD EITHER CONFIRM A SEVENTH VARIANT OR COLLAPSE THIS LINE INTO DBE-AGO. That is the cheapest decisive test available to this survey
  3. PILLOWTALK-FOREIGNER. Direction. PILLOWTALK CATS BORN BEFORE ROCIRI'S ELVIS CANNOT HAVE INHERITED DBE-RE FROM HIM. Pillowtalk's Bon Aqua carries 68 on a 2008 registration, seven years before Elvis, and Elvis descends from Pillowtalk cats rather than the reverse. Pillowtalk cats bred after and with the Rociri Elvis line can carry DBE-RE, and this register documents such a cross in the 28 October 2020 litter of Sinfonia von Engelswiese. THE TWO STATEMENTS ARE NOT IN CONFLICT: the trait in this line is older than the variant named for Elvis, and DBE-RE has since flowed back into it
  4. PILLOWTALK-FOREIGNER. Resolved to a third reading, 18 August 2026. THE QUESTION WAS PUT AS EITHER-OR AND IT IS NOT. This survey first asked whether the Pillowtalk variant IS DBE-RE or is a different allele. THE READING HELD BY THE COMPILER IS THAT THE LINE CARRIES BOTH: DBE-RE, which descends through it, AND A SECOND VARIANT BESIDES. That accounts for the two facts that would not sit together otherwise. It accounts for a cat of the line testing clear of DBE-RE while the line plainly carries DBE-RE elsewhere, because a line is not one genotype. And it accounts for Pillowtalk's Bon Aqua carrying eye code 68 on a 2008 registration, seven years before the cat DBE-RE is named for was born.
  5. PILLOWTALK-FOREIGNER. Where the two branches part. Finding 3 gives the common ancestor: LOVE HULEN'S HURRICANE MITCH, MCO d 22, 18 January 1999. His son Love Hulen's Mujaffa leads through McCloud White Enjoy and Olmocabe's Morpheus to Rociri's Elvis and so to DBE-RE. His son Love Hulen's Scoop leads through Rushcutter Brave Heart to the Katrin Style cats, and his daughter Love Hulen's Silver Rhapsody through Timberhills Chelsea to Venezia the Foreigner. MITCH CARRIES NO EYE CODE and shared descent at this depth is common in the breed, so the split is a place to look and not a finding about an allele.
  6. PILLOWTALK-FOREIGNER. How the register flags it, and the objection that has to be answered. The two are counted as SEPARATE variants, so every cattery holding both is red flagged. FINDING 2 OBJECTS TO EXACTLY THIS: it records that no cattery holding Rociri Elvis descent lacks Pillowtalk descent, so a flag on the pair fires on every DBE-RE cattery there is and tells a breeder nothing. THAT OBJECTION IS ANSWERED ONLY BY WHAT THE FLAG SAYS. A flag that restates the descent is noise. A flag that names the cats, the breed group and the generations to the second variant is a testing list, and that is what the cattery table now prints. IF THE SECOND VARIANT IS NAMED, the flag becomes specific and this note is superseded. ONE NAMED PILLOWTALK CAT ON A CURRENT SIX-VARIANT PANEL WOULD DO IT

A flag is not an error. It marks a place where two sources say different things, or where an attribution cannot be made on the evidence held.

The record

Register id
pil-01
Sex
not stated by the source
Cattery prefix
Pillowtalk
Breed, as stated
Maine Coon
Line
Pillowtalk-Foreigner
Eye status
unknown: the source records no eye colour
Role
founder
Relations named by the source
The founder record for the Pillowtalk-Foreigner line. Fifty-two records in this register stand on it across eighteen cattery prefixes, and Rociri's Elvis descends from three of its cats through Langstteich's Bellissimo Blue
The description held
No individual animal. This record exists so that the line can be named and its cats grouped, and NO VARIANT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR IT
Evidence grade
Reported asserted, with neither a test nor a traced descent
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Source

messybeast.com for the line name, together with eleven PawPeds pedigrees supplied 17 August 2026 which supply its cats. A founder trace only. NO VARIANT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED and no laboratory report for any animal of this line has been supplied to the survey

This directory is a working aid compiled from published charts, registry documents and breeder statements. It is not a register and it has no standing of any kind. The grade attaches to the animal, not to the line: a cat whose ancestor was genotyped is line-traced, not genotyped.